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Post by godzillawolf on Mar 28, 2009 19:54:33 GMT -5
Well he wasn't dragged, more of losing his buoyancy but the guardian monsters still appeared in the sky and entered Godzilla, which isn't mentioned, and then he sinks, he didn't dive like he did other times in the movie, he just sunk, instead of going onto Tokyo to do what the souls summoned him to do. Every other site I've gone to says this is what happened. Toho Kingdom is the most reliable one I've found it on, its hard to find reliable sources when it comes to Kaiju films, as the companies tend not to release such things, but so far, that site is pretty reliable.
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Post by Monster Master on Mar 29, 2009 18:20:04 GMT -5
Which could have also simply been from Godzilla being tired as Hell and already wounded by the Ghidorah's ball. There's also that fact that the spirits didn't do anything, it looked more like Godzilla absorbed them, which makes much more sense considering earlier on in the movie it was stated spirits were another form of electricity and Godzilla was shown to have the ability to absorb other energies.
TK stats aren't the official stats. They're fan written, Mothra, Baragon, nor Ghidorah's bios list an ability to join together like that and attack and the histories are all fan written.
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Post by godzillawolf on Mar 30, 2009 5:33:12 GMT -5
As I said, its hard to find a reliable kaiju source on the internet. Lets face it, unless audio commentary on a DVD offically tells it or someone finds the actual script on the internet, this is basically what you think vs. what I think. The way I saw it was that as soon as the Guardian Monsters entered Godzilla's body, he sank. Plus, how did Baragon get there? Mothra and King Ghidorah had combined their power but Baragon didn't. Anyway, them appearing and entering Godzilla's body isn't mentioned in their articals, as for what they did, there is no offical word on it so I'm not going to start a fight over this, its pointless, I argee to disagree. Plus, you're the boss.
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Post by Monster Master on Mar 30, 2009 17:12:51 GMT -5
As I said, its hard to find a reliable kaiju source on the internet. Lets face it, unless audio commentary on a DVD offically tells it or someone finds the actual script on the internet, this is basically what you think vs. what I think. The way I saw it was that as soon as the Guardian Monsters entered Godzilla's body, he sank. Plus, how did Baragon get there? Mothra and King Ghidorah had combined their power but Baragon didn't. Anyway, them appearing and entering Godzilla's body isn't mentioned in their articals, as for what they did, there is no offical word on it so I'm not going to start a fight over this, its pointless, I argee to disagree. Plus, you're the boss. Oh no no no. I know what you're saying and understanding fully, and I'd add it if I agreed on it or if there was any official source for it. Trying to keep my normal assholishness out of the Archives, but may have some slips here and there, so don't think I was trying to out right bash your idea. |
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Post by godzillawolf on Mar 30, 2009 17:33:56 GMT -5
ITs ok. My main arguement is this, if Godzilla was just absorbing them, why did Baragon show up? King Ghidorah and Mothra made sense as they'd combined togather to combat Godzilla ubt Baragon had vanished earlier in the movie, appeared in the sky as a spirit upon his demise but wasn't absorbed then, which should've happened if Godzilla absorbed the other two, instead he just disappeared. So that's why I think all three appeared, so they could join their energies togather and give Japan one last chance to defeat Godzilla. Another thing to point out is, whenever else Godzilla absorbed energy, it went straight to his dorsal spines, which I think is mentioned in the articals, when the Guardian Monster's energy hit him, it sorta washed over him, not going into his spines. I know that last bit might sound like nitpicking but it kinda makes sense because of what happened with Ghidorah's Gravity Beams. That was just my full explaination for my theory, which may make more sense than what I said before and possibly convince you, otherwise I'll just forget it.
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Post by Monster Master on Mar 30, 2009 17:54:22 GMT -5
ITs ok. My main arguement is this, if Godzilla was just absorbing them, why did Baragon show up? King Ghidorah and Mothra made sense as they'd combined togather to combat Godzilla ubt Baragon had vanished earlier in the movie, appeared in the sky as a spirit upon his demise but wasn't absorbed then, which should've happened if Godzilla absorbed the other two, instead he just disappeared. So that's why I think all three appeared, so they could join their energies togather and give Japan one last chance to defeat Godzilla. Another thing to point out is, whenever else Godzilla absorbed energy, it went straight to his dorsal spines, which I think is mentioned in the articals, when the Guardian Monster's energy hit him, it sorta washed over him, not going into his spines. I know that last bit might sound like nitpicking but it kinda makes sense because of what happened with Ghidorah's Gravity Beams. That was just my full explaination for my theory, which may make more sense than what I said before and possibly convince you, otherwise I'll just forget it. Or Baragon's spirit could have found its way into Mothra, 'cause she hatched from the cocoon not long after his defeat. |
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Post by godzillawolf on Mar 30, 2009 18:10:48 GMT -5
Possible but there was no idication of that at all in the movie, at least both our theories on the ending could've appeared to happen. To put that in would be more speculation than putting ether other theory in. What about why Godzilla didn't react the same as the other times he absorbed energy?
I think the most importent thing in this is this incarnation of Godzilla, which I think you can agree with me on, is a single minded engine of destruction that thus far in the movie was completely driven to do what the souls powering him wanted him to do, if he perposely went under, then he would've had been retreating, which doesn't really fit this verson of Godzilla.
Sorry if I'm being annoying, I don't get to talk about this kinda stuff very much...
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Post by baragon2001 on Apr 2, 2009 15:16:47 GMT -5
The Darkseekers is being called Teletubbies or is that an april fools day prank?
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Post by godzillawolf on Apr 2, 2009 20:16:14 GMT -5
Its not the only page, a few pages are named like that. Its a prank, and a funny one at that.
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2009 20:23:18 GMT -5
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Post by Guest on May 2, 2009 16:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by godzillawolf on May 3, 2009 7:15:23 GMT -5
Nathanial Leech's artical has several errors. First, he has enhanced regeneration, which is made a big fuss of. Enhanced durability is also likely as he survived multible gunshots and knifewounds without even falling down. I'd also assume he has enhanced strength as he was capable of swiping off people's head with one swipe, this may be his claws but other monsters have razor-sharp claws mentioned. Also, though it wasn't a fight with another monster, he still had a knife fight with the head bodyguard and won so maybe he should have a fight record, not sure if that's how its done or not. monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mm&action=display&thread=506 |
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Post by kinggodzilla on May 3, 2009 17:33:08 GMT -5
taro from the 7th voyage of sinbad isnt name taro because sokurah was saying follow not taro. and i have the DVD of that film and the subtitels say follow not taro
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Post by Monster Master on May 8, 2009 22:11:30 GMT -5
taro from the 7th voyage of sinbad isnt name taro because sokurah was saying follow not taro. and i have the DVD of that film and the subtitels say follow not taro We've known that for years. Just never changed the name 'cause its stuck with everyone who's been using the bio. |
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Post by godzillawolf on May 9, 2009 19:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by Guest on May 10, 2009 7:17:44 GMT -5
Neither was my post on those three Big O monsters.
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Post by Guest on Jun 15, 2009 19:35:38 GMT -5
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Post by Guest on Jun 28, 2009 20:24:40 GMT -5
I apologize again for combo posting, but I'm just back from seeing an episode of Ultraman Powered and there is an oops that is spotted in the stats (and no offense, but you haven't fixed the last few mistakes that were reported by GWolf and myself). Anyways..... Gabora is a mutant, not an unknown. This was, in fact, pretty much confirmed in the episode because his body is made of uranium. The reason he absorbs it (the ability says for what is unknown) is for nutrition and because of his uranium body the episode does confirm that him emitting radiation does disrupt communication devices and remotes and he explodes with the force of a nuclear weapon if not properly killed. Since the Powered version is pretty much the original with minor modifications and going by the simply fact that the original also eats uranium for nutrition, it's safe to say the original is also a mutant. monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=powered&action=display&thread=809monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ultraman&action=display&thread=358BTW nice 60 stat update. Edit: Killer Grizzly from Grizzly 1976 wa said to weigh at least a ton, so, theoretically, wouldn't that count as weight? monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=natural&action=display&thread=1313 |
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 4, 2009 12:05:53 GMT -5
Its not so much an oops I think but I'd say Cyber-Godzilla does have a weakness. I know normally being basically a machine and unable to think for himself, seeing as all his movements were controled by the aliens, wouldn't normally be a weakness but in this serero, I think it would be. Reason being, that was what let him be killed by his son, GTS Godzilla's ability to plan and think allowed him to defeat Cyber-Godzilla because Cyber-Godzilla's mental abilities were limited. Also, I think another weakness is for what ever reason, he lost his burrowing ability he had in his organic form, which also allowed Godzilla to get the upperclaw in the fight. Sorry if this seems like nit picking but in my mind, these seem like weaknesses. monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=GTS&action=display&thread=352 |
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Post by Monster Master on Jul 4, 2009 21:08:27 GMT -5
Vanishing powers don't count as a weakness, nor do the amount of intellegence they display or how often they use their power. Weakness is for specific things that actually show harm to them. IE: A specific chemical (For Guilala), power limit (Like the Ultramen), an element (Xenoms), etc. Only things that directly effect the kaiju that wouldn't have so much of an effect on other things.
Otherwise we'd have to put something like Can be hurt and killed by bullets. in the weaknesses for just about ever man-sized monster or for something like Godzilla '54 we'd have to put Oxygen Destroyer.
If the monster itself is stupid, then it is stupid. That's part of the monster himself, not something that can assure him death like a time limit of an Ultraman.
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 5, 2009 11:40:54 GMT -5
I see your point. Would it be considered a weakness that his Sonic Reflector was very limited in its use in that only one known monster actuelly poccessed a sonic based attack, making it basically useless against most opponents? Also, while lack of intellgence isn't a weakness, I think the measure of intellgence Godzilla monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=GTS&action=display&thread=346 showed would be considered an ability. I think I've seen some monsters with high intellgence listed as a power. Within his timeline, I would say Godzilla was one of the most intellgent monsters there, which was a distinct advantage over the majority of his opponents. Also my post about Nathanal Leech, which in my mind is valid, hasn't been adressed, nether have Volkein's posts since then or my post about Wink, which I know is valid. They have not been charged nor an arguement made why they shouldn't be changed. |
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Post by Monster Master on Jul 5, 2009 12:26:11 GMT -5
No... Its a Sonic Reflector, it says what it does right in the power's name. Again, doing that, we'd have to do something like that for many kaiju who's powers only effect specific thing (Heisei MechaGodzilla's energy-absorbing armor for example).
No it wouldn't be. We have monsters on the Archives that can actually speak.
You probably have. I used to list it but then got rid of it when more and more monsters that were smart started coming in and decided it wasn't a real power. There's probably a few stats laying around that still list it.
I actually just forgot about the Wink thing. Just fixed it. As for Volk's non-stop Ultra-fixes. I'm not changing them until I see the series again or until our regular Ultra guys step in.
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 5, 2009 14:35:50 GMT -5
Well I meant in comparrsion to monsters in Godzilla: The Series, not monsters in general but I understand your points, just making note.
Thank you, but what about my Nathanal Leech thing? It is stated several times he can regenerate, as well as shown when he is stabbed and shot repeatedly and the wounds heal relatively quickly, as well as him healing from the brutal beating he got before being mutated. Though in the end, I'd say they attacked faster than he could regenerate. Would it also be a weakness what was said about the regeneration coming with a ravionious appitaite that forces him to feed nearly non-stop just to survive?
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Post by Guest on Jul 5, 2009 18:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by Monster Master on Jul 5, 2009 21:42:30 GMT -5
I'll make a note to watch the movie again and check it out.
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 6, 2009 9:44:19 GMT -5
I'll make a note to watch the movie again and check it out. What I remember most that it was specifically stated was someone calling him a 'self healing eating machine' or something to that effect, and I think the woman that worked for the billionar guy, forget her name, said it in more scientific terms. |
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 11, 2009 19:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by kinggodzilla on Jul 13, 2009 15:24:08 GMT -5
Cryptocleidus from godzilla the series says he has no fight record but he does against the giant bat in monster wars
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Post by Guest on Jul 13, 2009 17:46:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this counts as oops, but it should probably be noted: Cthuluh's horrific image ability. I've actually asked Lovecraftian experts about this awhile back and they say it's not an ability, just a combination of fright and incredibility. I even asked this in a thread at KP: www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18683 |
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Post by godzillawolf on Jul 14, 2009 10:46:38 GMT -5
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